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The White Rider

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In the Silmarilion Gothmog lord of balrogs is head buted by en elve into a river. It is said that his mane of fire was put out thus killing him because that is what kept him alive. But in the book the Fellowship of the Ring when Gandalf smote the bridge of Khazad-dum he fell and the Balrog used his fiery whip of many thongs to wrap around the wizards knees and drug him down with him! They fell through fire and water together fighting for many days. When Gandalf and the Balrog got out of the water that they had fell into Gandalf was a bit shoke but the Balrog of Morgoth was diferent. His fire was put out, to the last flame. And according to Gandalf the White he looked like a creature of slime, made of all shadow. But yet he was alive unlike Gothmog his master. The balrog fled to the endless stair case and whent up for many thousand stairs. When they reached Durin's Tower The fire in the demon grew again and became whole in him again. I guess he just needed to dry off lol. Any wase I want to know why you think he survied and his much greater mast Gothmog died. So tell me your theories, and be as discriptive as posible.

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may be the elf jumped into the river and held gothmogs head under water until he drownd I always thought that water was a balrogs weakness

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That could be true since that elve drowned and died. I thought why can he not swim and maybe that is why he was busy holding Gothmog down. However in the Silmarilion it clearly says the river put out his mane of fire which kept him alive so that means once it is out he is out. So That probably would not be the case.

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It's like attila the hun he was tearifing to the romans and brought death and deastuction were ever his army went and yet ironicly some acounts of his death say he died of a nosebleed!

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Lol ya that is a lot like it. Like I say every day it is good to have a historian on our team.

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i think its different because of the fact that durins bane was gaining power under the mountain


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He was, how so?

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dont you feel beter after some sleep. its only speculation

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This is an interesting topic. I have got to think about this.

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Ah, well still, just because he has rested dose not mean he can not die the same way as his master. Who knows maybe this is a mistake by J.R.R. Tolkien??? We will have to dig deeper. Even deeper then the gredy Dwarves dug into Moria. Haha funny!

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he was old maybe alzheimers

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Lol, ya maybe you are right.

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yeah but lets not disrespect him like that kay

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Of corse.

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because we all know he was awesome

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Of corse. He is one of my favorite characters. It is a shame how he had to go out. But he had made a name for himself and would latter retun in the Dagor Dagorath.

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yup


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… suddenly it drew itself up to a great height, and its wings were spread from wall to wall …



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So ya, I will keep this topic open in case we find out this mystory!?!?!?

-- Edited by Olorin on Sunday 18th of July 2010 02:30:55 PM

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Do not insult JRR Tolkien in such a way! He was a genius until his death!

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maybe durins bane (wich is the name of the balrog gandalf fought) fiured out a spell to make himself invinceable to water

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a spell? I'm not sure Balrogs are capable of that.

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Ya, and he was not his fire was put out for days and then was re caught on fire again. I think that Durin's Bane got out of the water in time so that he was almost dead and that is why he ran away from Olorin. Gothmog was sweped away by a river and could not escape and he died. And plus the water Durins Bane fell into was calm, like a lake. That is it I have figured it out. Eurika eurika eurika eurika eurika eurika eurika eurika!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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that's gotta be it idea.gif

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Yes thank you for thinking that my theory is right, who els agrees with me?

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I do! Well, this has been a great topic, but it looks like soon it will come to a close.

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Yes, I just want Asmodeus and Crazy Elf to post on here, because I want to see if they agree with me. So tell Crazy Elf to get on okay?

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Okay I'm doing that right now.

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Good. Make sure he gets on!

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