they arent really like the noldor because the noldor did not openly attack the valar just protested their decisions meanwhile the numenoreans actually made open war against them and said that they should never die mean they also protested iluvatar himself
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I am with you Asmodeus. It is similer however. The Noldor were tricked by Melkor's lies. And the Numenorians were tricked by Sauron's lies. And they both rebeiled. But they are also very very different storys!
Iluvatar. This topic has indeed gone off topic! I am disappointed in all of you! Especially you Iluvatar!
Anyway, I agree with the general message that is circulating around. They were indeed malleable men who above all desire power, and thus were easily tricked by the evil Sauron.
You are right Crazy Elf, we need to get back on subject. But I think that we covered all that is. They were idiots and they wanted imortality. Topic Closed right Illuvatar?