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In the last years of numenor, ar-pharazon its last king was seduced by sauron, and persuaded that he had the power to take the lands of aman from the valar themselves. He set out with a great fleet, and led an immense army into the calacirya, ready to do battle for the blessed realm.At that time manwe the elder king gave up his power over the World and called on iluvatar, who unleased his power against the numenoreans. Their fleets and even their island home were swept away, but the invaders of aman were not destroyed. The hills fell on them, and they were imprisoned beneath the Earth in the Caves of the Forgotten, where they still await the ending of the World. When the day of the last battle comes, it is said, they will be released from their caves, though the part that they have to play in the dagor dagorath remains a mystery.NaturalCaves.jpg



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all I can say is creepy omg.gif and I explanined this to olorin that in the 6 book of the chonicals of narnia there was cave were many beasts fell into and it was prophisized that they would came alive at the end of time and they did in the 7 and last book

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Well, they are traped hua. Well then... stinks for them, lol! I would hate being traped in a cave for years and years. Thought it dose look some what beautiful.

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Wow. I always thought they were simply obliterated.

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no no they have an underground civilization who knows what they'll be like in the dagor dagorath when they come back

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No one knows I guess...

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that would be funny if one of the salors down in the caves after geting traped would say "hay at least we got into valinor"

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Lol he would get beat up!

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They would go crazy down there.

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That's very interesting. I had no idea that they were still alive. I wonder whose side they are on when Dagor Dagorath comes.

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Most likely the good side.

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i think thell still go for evil

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No, they are Men. I don't think any Men will be on the dark side.

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they have a choice and i think that they'll be mad at the good guys

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Yeah, but wasn't the whole point for them to learn their lesson?

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The reason everyone wanted to kill Morgoth was because he destroyed the sun and moon and they were under ground so they would not miss it verry much. So they might side with Morgoth, however it could go either way, I do not know.

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Why would the Valar put them there if they were just going to rise up against them? Why not just crush them? It's less cruel then imprisoning them.

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goood point but maybe the imprisonment was meant to show the power of iluvatar and they didnt like it

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Yeah, I guess.

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I think I agree with Asmodeus in this case. But it really could go either way like I said.

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I do not see the Valar as people that would make a demonstration out of the numenoreans just to show Iluvatar's power, and if it was at the cost of more people going to Morgoth's side then it just doesn't make any sense.

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